T4 Fails to Re-boot
T4 Fails to Re-boot
I was watching a recorded program at the same time I was recording another via HDMI in, when I got a flicking picture on my TV screen. As quickly as I could I power down via the rear power switch. After about 10 minutes I repowered however the T4 will not reboot, it is displaying the Beyonwiz Logo, but does not progress to the bubble screen.
Anybody got any good suggestions.
Anybody got any good suggestions.
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Re: T4 Fails to Re-boot
How many times have you tried the bootup? If more than once, then try to reload the firmware.
Re: T4 Fails to Re-boot
Sandy B wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 17:52I was watching a recorded program at the same time I was recording another via HDMI in, when I got a flicking picture on my TV screen. As quickly as I could I power down via the rear power switch. After about 10 minutes I repowered however the T4 will not reboot, it is displaying the Beyonwiz Logo, but does not progress to the bubble screen.
Anybody got any good suggestions.
This will sound almost ridiculous but my T4 did exactly that a few months back. Switch it off for at least 8 hours and try again.
I tried everything I could think off before ringing Warkus to send it off for repair. Opened it up, checked the PSU rails, fiddled with connections for the hard drive, etc. No joy. Wouldn't read a usb drive so I couldn't reflash.
Having left it switched off for at least a day I switched it back on as one final check before boxing it up - and remarkably, it fired up as though nothing had ever happened!
Switching off for an hour didn't help but after several hours it came good and has been operating normally ever since. Damned if I know why and Warkus didn't know either but it works as good as ever now. Maybe some residual charge somewhere locks something up but that's pure speculation. At least it's harmless to give it a try.
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Re: T4 Fails to Re-boot
Thanks all for the quick reply.
I will try the 8 hour power off as the first alternative.
I will try the 8 hour power off as the first alternative.
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Re: T4 Fails to Re-boot
I did wait overnight and the T4 again failed to reboot. I was reluctant to reinstall the firmware as that would/did remove my direct external link to the attached hard drives. I have reinstalled the firmware from this site as noted below;If it was me, that'd be the second choice. I'd try the firmware reload before waiting the eight hours.
<T4 - http://beyonwiz.com.au/firmware/t4/beyo ... 17_usb.zip>
All appears to be working as normal now, without the "linkage" to the external drives. Another problem to solve, I really liked the old software which did not have this security feature and allowed access to external drives via "media"
I have noted that an update is available for the software, but when I previously tried to install it crashed out. Where can I find the up-date so I can try a USD upgrade.
Thanks
Re: T4 Fails to Re-boot
There is nothing in the new update that should prevent you from accessing external drives.Sandy B wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:51I did wait overnight and the T4 again failed to reboot. I was reluctant to reinstall the firmware as that would/did remove my direct external link to the attached hard drives. I have reinstalled the firmware from this site as noted below;
<T4 - http://beyonwiz.com.au/firmware/t4/beyo ... 17_usb.zip>
All appears to be working as normal now, without the "linkage" to the external drives. Another problem to solve, I really liked the old software which did not have this security feature and allowed access to external drives via "media"
Are you referring to this thread?
https://www.beyonwiz.com.au/forum/viewt ... 2&p=167095
If so, then you should be able to follow the advice there to resolve the issue.
Rather than sharing out /media/usb though (due to the inconsistency there), try sharing /media/
You can also share out /root like in the previous firmware versions, but you will be back to the old insecure sharing arrangement. Not a problem as long as you wear the risk yourself.
You can also use ftp if you prefer. Lots of ways to skin that particular cat.
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Re: T4 Fails to Re-boot
What firmware did you have previously and what firmware did you load now (your link is a dud)? I'm guessing you loaded 20180417, so why didn't you restore your last backup, as it would have restored your Samba config file.
Sandy B wrote: I have noted that an update is available for the software, but when I previously tried to install it crashed out. Where can I find the up-date so I can try a USD upgrade.
Are you referring to this 17.5-20190207 promoted to production release?
Re: T4 Fails to Re-boot
Glad to hear it's working after a reflash. Mine wouldn't recognise the USB to reflash when it was off for short periods. After the extended delay, it rebooted so I then reflashed it. Your sequence sounds different.
Regardless, I think the current firmware 17.5 20190207 is very stable and agree with GG's recommendation.
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Re: T4 Fails to Re-boot
Sorry about the delayed response, I did not have a good day yesterday (not related to the T4).
Many thanks all for your assistance.
Yes I was referring to the above mentioned thread, it's just that I am not capable of programing and I have to rely on my "expert" who lives in Adelaide. FTP does not give the flexibility as File Explorer (FE), e.g. I can not create a directory with FTP but can with FE.Are you referring to this thread?
https://www.beyonwiz.com.au/forum/viewt ... 2&p=167095
If so, then you should be able to follow the advice there to resolve the issue.
Yes that is the update that I could not find, thanks.Are you referring to this 17.5-20190207 promoted to production release?
Over the last few weeks when recording from Apple TV via HDMI input, I had "similar" problems, however I was able to do a simple reboot which resolved the issue. However this time it did not reboot and hence my problem.Glad to hear it's working after a reflash. Mine wouldn't recognise the USB to reflash when it was off for short periods. After the extended delay, it rebooted so I then reflashed it. Your sequence sounds different.
Regardless, I think the current firmware 17.5 20190207 is very stable and agree with GG's recommendation.
Many thanks all for your assistance.
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Re: T4 Fails to Re-boot
I just tried a write to a directory underneath a global path = /media share - teeny-weeny files can be written, but anything greater than 64KB can't be written.
So no change in behaviour in 20190207.
Specific references to external drives would still be needed.
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Re: T4 Fails to Re-boot
Grumpy_Geoff wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 13:36
I just tried a write to a directory underneath a global path = /media share - teeny-weeny files can be written, but anything greater than 64KB can't be written.
It's even more restrictive than that:
Code: Select all
root@beyonwizu4:/media/hdd/logs# mount
...
tmpfs on /media type tmpfs (rw,relatime,size=64k)
...
Simple rule: don't put anything other than mount points in /media.
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I know I am only dreaming, but would it not be nice if there was a plug-in/patch that could be installed which allowed access to <root>. I realise the security implications but if made clear to users prior to installation I would not see any problem.
This would certainly make life easier for people like me with very limited knowledge of programming and do not want to enter the operating system.
Well I can dream.
This would certainly make life easier for people like me with very limited knowledge of programming and do not want to enter the operating system.
Well I can dream.
Re: T4 Fails to Re-boot
There is no mechanism for a plugin to give instructions or warnings during installation.
Making the root directory available on the network is exactly that and more. It opens up the box not only to malware, but also to accidental damage by users.
The hurdle is intentional.
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Re: T4 Fails to Re-boot
Most of the people on the forum who say that they export the root file system from their Beyonwizes do it in order to be able to modify the firmware.
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Making the root directory available on the network is exactly that and more. It opens up the box not only to malware, but also to accidental damage by users.
The hurdle is intentional.
Pardon my stupidity but if the path <root/media/usb> was introduced would that not pose the same risk as the current path of <root/media/movie>.
Re: T4 Fails to Re-boot
As we established previously there are other technical problems with sharing the USB mount that make it unusable. That may or may not be a solvable issue
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Re: T4 Fails to Re-boot
Sandy B wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 15:40I know I am only dreaming, but would it not be nice if there was a plug-in/patch that could be installed which allowed access to <root>. I realise the security implications but if made clear to users prior to installation I would not see any problem.
This would certainly make life easier for people like me with very limited knowledge of programming and do not want to enter the operating system.
Why do you need to access the root file directory?
I'm guessing you're still on 20180417.
Why did you not restore from your last backup? That backup file would have had your SMB User Config file in it.
Regardless, on your PC, use Notepad to create a file named "smb_user.conf", with contents of -
Code: Select all
[USB-usb]
comment = /sdb1
path = /media/usb
guest ok = yes
read only = no
[USB-sdc1]
comment = /sdc1
path = /media/sdc1
guest ok = yes
read only = no
[USB-sdd1]
comment = /sdd1
path = /media/sdd1
guest ok = yes
read only = no
From that old thread of last year, you stated your second connected USB drive presented itself as /media/sdc2 so you'll need to make the appropriate adjustments for the second and third devices. You can easily find what they present as by going to MENU>>Information>>Devices, or by viewing the list of devices in the SimpleUmount plugin (in 20180417, BLUE button from live TV [in later f/w it's in the plugins column of the main menu]), or by going up a couple of levels in the media listing to /media contents.
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Stupid question of the year, does the line <Code: Select all> have to be included in the Notepad created file named "smb_user.conf".
I was thinking of just copying your coding into Notepad and installing on the T4 via USB and File Commander
I was thinking of just copying your coding into Notepad and installing on the T4 via USB and File Commander
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Re: T4 Fails to Re-boot
No, you don't include that line. If you click the 'Select all' link, then it selects all of the "code" lines and you can right-click on the "code block", then copy them for pasting elsewhere.
You can also copy the file to /etc/samba/ directory using FTP if you wish (and you've unlocked the 'root' user account).
Re: T4 Fails to Re-boot
Well that was easy, I don't now why I made all the fuss.
The only problem I had was that Notepad was creating a <smb_user.conf.txt> file, Quickly realised the problem and rectified.
Many thanks Grumpy
The only problem I had was that Notepad was creating a <smb_user.conf.txt> file, Quickly realised the problem and rectified.
Many thanks Grumpy
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Re: T4 Fails to Re-boot
Now take a backup, so you won't have to do this again if you reload the 17.5-series 20180417 firmware or the later 20190207 and restore settings.
There appears to be a 19.3-series coming in due course, so you may have to repeat this process so keep this file somewhere.
Re: T4 Fails to Re-boot
Now take a backup, so you won't have to do this again if you reload the 17.5-series 20180417 firmware or the later 20190207 and restore settings.
Already backed up the file in 3 locations.
Again thanks
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Re: T4 Fails to Re-boot
I'm talking about a settings backup taken on the PVR - MENU>>Setup>>Software manager>>Create backup.
Alternatively, via MENU>>Plugins>>Software management>>Backup system settings.
The system will offer to restore your settings after loading firmware. It save you having to perform a setup again (including your Samba User Config).
Re: T4 Fails to Re-boot
I thought that I had backup using MENU>>Setup>>Software manager>>Create backup. I will again try using the Plugins method to be sure.I'm talking about a settings backup taken on the PVR - MENU>>Setup>>Software manager>>Create backup.
Alternatively, via MENU>>Plugins>>Software management>>Backup system settings.
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Re: T4 Fails to Re-boot
Using MENU>Setup>Software manager>Create backup does exactly the same thing as PLUGIN>Software management>Backup system settings.Sandy B wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:51I thought that I had backup using MENU>>Setup>>Software manager>>Create backup. I will again try using the Plugins method to be sure.I'm talking about a settings backup taken on the PVR - MENU>>Setup>>Software manager>>Create backup.
Alternatively, via MENU>>Plugins>>Software management>>Backup system settings.
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